Best band ever! come on, you know its true. Sam and Herman are fantastic guitarists and along with ZP's vocals they are unstoppable!
best live band i have seen, i thought they put on a better show than Maiden

Amen, brother. They roXXOrs my boxxors. Plus ZP is from SA, which puts them up another notch. With the Heart of a Dragon we riiiide!!!

they are awesome....best band ever....no

they are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaantastic. and im going to see them again in november come on, name me a better band. i dare you

I have to agree with Peguin on this one. And I already know what many other sword metallers on this site would say. NEKROGOBLIKO...Erm, I mean MANOWAR!
And many more besides.

Dragonforce are incredible and will definately go far. I'm sure that they will be as well loved as Rhapsody and Hammerfall.

im sorry but i still have to disagree. they are the best, oh yes they are

I suspect they are already miles ahead of hammerfall and rhapsody, in metal, sword metal, non metal and evening extreme metal circles. they have a certain classic rock popiness. It's not a bad thing, as it's pretty much power metal taken to one extreme, which happens to be the classic rock/melodic direction. Neither of those are bad at unit shifting or being widely accepted.

i will just translate that last post as "dragonforce are the best band ever. lalalalalala" because towards the end i was lost

They are true masters of the genre. They have the balance of great vocals, mega fast drum beats, the keyboards, and of course, the Guitar Gods Herman Li and Sam Totman. The bnest pair out there!

Don't get me wrong, Dragonforce are blooming lovely, and one of my favourite bands for sure, but I have a problem with calling them the best of the genre lol. I mean, come on, in comparison to Rhapsody, Hammerfall, Sonata Arctica, Blind Guardian, Manowar, Gamma Ray etc who have all been rocking hard for a lot longer, it seems it's all just to allow newer bands like Dragonforce to come along and take the credit. Sure, they have the guitarists, and vocals, but their music lacks the variety which makes other bands awesome. Like I said, it's not as though I'm coming from a biased standpoint, because I am a fan, but Goodness me (in my humble opinion) they're not the best band ever!

I love Dragonforce a lot. I made them a $5000 website for free. They really do lack the variety though. All of their songs are very similar, even the ballads. In like ten years if their next 5 albums aren't all the same then we can talk about being the best imo.

I concur. If Dragonforce put in that extra little something to seperate them from typical power metal... perhaps some folk or maybe jazz or something (Disciples of Babylon already has a very jazzy part). Also change the formula from time to time. Pretty much all their songs go Intro Verse Chorus Verse Chorus Bridge Chorus. Their fucking immense bridges is one reason I love them, but some variety would make them that much more amazing.

the vocal melodies, not the actual words are what makes this band so tight, also the stellar riffage tickles my fancy. thank fuck for heimdall.

Dragonforce are indeed talented, but have a long way to go before they can be considered 'the best'.

You know, as much as I like "Black Winter Night", and "Heart of the Dragon", and I really do love both songs, I don't really like Dragonforce.

They're too... poppy?... I guess would be the right word. The singing is cool, but it's done the same in all the songs, the guitars sound great, but after awhile I get tired of incredibly clean, skilled playing and just want playing that sounds metallic. I think the tone on their guitars is the same in almost everything I've listened to. It makes them distinctive, but boring after a bit. I feel the same way about all those virtuoso guitarists, "Cool Yngwie, you can sweep like a motherfucker, and it sounds cool. Now make something that sounds GREAT."

Michael romeo/syphony x...thats sick fucking guitar...you get a bit of clean and you get crunchy "metallic" sound...they fucking rock and yes as much as i love dragonforce...i cant listen to it nonstop...i need a break

I do really like them, but a little heavier please.
Valley of the damned is a fantastic album.

Time for a long post! Yay!

I think one important thing to take into consideration is that there is more than one thing to take into consideration when judging a band.

Things to take into consideration when judging a band are:

a) Songwriting/composition. This is thing like how it flows from one part to the next, makes sense, sounds good, is catchy, etc...

b) Lyrics. Not the same of the vocal melody. You can take Warriors of the World United by Manowar, and change the lyrics about how much it hurts to steal from old ladies and the song will suck. Ties in with band image.

c) Band Image. How the band portrays themselves on and offstage, the imagery they use on posters and album covers/sleeves, how they act on and offstage.

d) Musicianship. How well they can reproduce live what they did in the studio given the intruments they have(you can't do a whole orchestra with 5 musicians) and improvisation.

e) Belief. Doing it for the music and not the money.

f) Fans. How they treat their fans. How loyal the fans are and the coolness level of your average fan. Number of fans is irrelevant.

g) Arrangement/Production. How the albums sound as a final product.

If you take all these things into consideration(I think I have covered everything), you should be able to determine with a good degree of certainty who is the best overall band. But I'm pretty sure the best overall band won't be the best in any on category.

It also seems that some categories are purely subjective, like lyrics, because I might think Manowar has awesome lyrics, but alot of people think their lyrics are lame.

I won't say any single band is the best or worse, because it depends on which way you look at it and I don't like all the bands I like for the same reason, I like them for different reasons.

I like Manowar mostly for lyrics, belief and fans. Dragonforce mostly for composition, albums and when they aren't completey screwing things up live their musicianship live. Blind Guardian for composition and musicianship etc... Each band has areas where they are stronger than the next.

So in conclusion if you read all this and dissagree you suck.

End of long post! Yay!

i agree with all your points there. but i do not agree with the statement "when they aren't completey screwing things up live". they are a great live band, and the best sounding and the best act i have seen.